Tuesday, February 19, 2008

Rhetoric is BAAA-AK (Lillian H)

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“When one gives HELP for a problem, they're called a HERO, but when one ask WHY the problem exist, they're called a TROUBLEMAKER”.

The troublemaking attitude of the rhetorician is back!!!! This text celebrates and challenges our class to embrace the inconsistencies. I think that the title of my blog is fitting to frame our discussion for tomorrow because it explores the deeper role of being a thought provoking rhetorician. As we are beginning to brainstorm and probe for powerful presentation topics, it is important that we are not afraid to upset uniformity or of dwelling in puzzlement or disequilibrium. Covino’s text has sparked a fire under my presentation ideas and I pulled out specifics that can hopefully help us prepare for the proposals.



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Complicate meaning
Demonstrating the possibilities for multiple perspectives
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We must appreciate the “Strategic spots at which ambiguity necessarily arise”
There is Western practice is to structure experiences

Derrida – recognize the limitations of their discourse clearly enough too push against them
Dreams of deciphering a truth or an origin which escapes play” dreams of achieving certainty
We should not idealize certainty and conviction

Thomas Kuhn- scientific progress always results from paradigm shift which discards theories and methods no longer applicable to new problems.

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“Against Method”
Feyerabend- do not be seduced into thinking that you have at last found the correct description of the facts….

There is a tendency to kill the ability of students to think for themselves and make discoveries
Ignoring variables that upset the uniformity

Conterinduction – introducing, elaborating and propagating hypotheses which are inconsistent
Absence of predetermined goal or purpose makes possible accidental solutions to unrealized problems

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Our goal should be to Change the properties of the world we live in

Temporary clarity yields to a fresh start
Rhetoric of innovation
There is danger of thinking with language that embodies rationalistic and positivistic biases ….delimits what we are capable of observing , feeling , knowing , and changing.

Cultural and academic and historical baggage

Experience arises together with theoretical assumptions, not before them- Feyerabend, Derrida
Geertz – in search of meaning rather than in search of law with the assumption that meaningful generalization cone fro analyzing a specific situation on a number of level.
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Enthrography
Derrida, Feyerabend, Geertz- devalue certainty and closure wile it celebrates the generative power of imagination

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Good: have a “student centered , process oriented environment
Bad: Sentence combining, workshopping, conferencing and recursive revision , speculation and exploration remains subordinate to finishing

Process vs. product
What counts is ending rather than continuing the discourse

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Students “Unwilling and unable to fully elaborate the process of composing”

Covino calls for composition that avoids closure rather than intending closure
We should trade certainty for ambiguity, trade preservative writing for investigative writing, trade conclusions for counterinduction

Full exploration motivates wonder and thus Enriching ones interdependence
Uncertainty that provokes the investigation of the possibilities beyond ones stock response

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Promote puzzlement and disequilibrium are the elements of rhetoric.

Lilly Bridwell-Bowles said...

Lillian,
I'm sorry we didn't get to your article today, but you have given us much to think about before Tuesday. Thanks for you flexibility. --The other Lillian